You can have a wonderful, healthy relationship with someone with whom you dont reside. Saying she owe her friend payments of 125 a week for watching my daughter. The mom or the taxpayers, so stop complaining and say thank you to the other people who pay to raise your children. There is even less basis for fears realated to childrens well being one education and job levels are controlled for. Child support is effectively a blackmail or extortion system whereby the state takes you children unconstitutionally, and then uses that excuse to charge you extortion fees weekly for the privilege of NOT having your children! No amount of child support will actually take care of a childs needs for a month unless its like 1,000 plus and its only one child then it would be a different story. Each man was informed about the fatherhood program, each was given a speech about how pointless it is to lock up fathers for child support when it just costs the state money and puts the fathers out of work. Lindsey I know about half the women I have talked to did the same and were shocked that the court didnt want to accept it, and a few others chose to only accept what amounted to ongoing expenses to shut the judge up on the issue, even though they would have rather just accepted the money directly because they worked fine together. So here I am barely being able to make ends meet and I agree something is definitely wrong with the system. So sad how the law works.. AMEN, this is the mos awsome thing I have heard/readI absolutely applaud, and what I was expectingnot what happened, not close by farwas awful. Articles &CLE Legal Issues A.R.T. But it is obvious the current laws need significant restructuring. But we are all equal. In P.A. (I live in Florida if that helps) they may have an unofficial agreement that hasnt been brought to court (Im not exactly sure about that) im Afraid that if my dad stops paying the support than my mom will try to bring it to court and do something crazy. What do I say? Your email address will not be published. The system is geared toward women and fathers get the bad deal. I would of got in all sorts of trouble. I have to save for a month to be able to take them to a movie. I have a phenomenal relationship with my sons father and his wife. I dont tbink I am the only father who has felt this and I dont know how anyone can get through the feeling of the child not wanting to spend time with them. Worth a sacrifics in the long run but the counter support for him, can come from me. All of this is satisfactory to our horrible flawed court system. Remember you chose who you wanted to mate with you were not force like in some countries where human rights do not exist. Catch 22. I just went to court in Connecticut last week to have case transferred from Rhode Island to Connecticut, as the mother has lived there for several years now, and never got it transferred. Why cant we just go 50/50 on all the extra to make it fair? There are questions when you go from making $26 an hour to making $10 an hour, many dads do that intentionally to lessen the amount of child support the ex gets, usually out of bitterness. They NEED TO BE CHANGED or at least have these concerns be brought to light.. it was signed finalized. Move to TN. Not every divorce is by mutual choice. Single parents were given financial assistance from the government. The system is almost similar to yours and has been working for over eight years. After the deductions come out of my check (60%) and I pay my bills I am left with $360 a month for gas, groceries, and entertainment for the kids. While if my husband missed one payment, the courts would be all over him, calling him a deadbeat. Do you know that this man made sure that every time he went into a room, he was in front of one of those units? Every guys gonna do that now. Do you see some of these complainers?? And their reason is because they want it to be paid before the child hits 21 years old. Even in cases of domestic abuse by their husbands and even when they are deemed excellent mothers by the courts. I was a scout den leader, I was the one who took them to practices, etc. I have told my ex-wife this several times. I sooo agree with you on this!!! The laws about child support should include some kind of work forlow for the parents that are ending up in jail (not prison) for back child support. Im moving to Canada, Mexico or any other country for that matter. The case involved a South Carolina court order requiring Michael D. Turner to pay over $200 per month in child support. We all bleed red and eat bread. My fiance currently pays 800 a month for 4 kids, order was placed about 2 years this August, divorced took about 4 years, now 2 of the kids are grown, both graduating from high school in May(shes spending about 3000 for the after party, she posted it over facebook about how their father should helped), the other 2 are 15 and 16. I dont believe children should have to live back and forth with parents. #METOO, free the nipple. My own years as single father were lean,. On and For the record, 42 USC was never passed into POSITIVE LAW! As it is fathers are segregated from their children as though they have done something wrong or immoral by no longer being with the mother and turned into quasi-criminals by default at an alarming rate and it is an absolute abuse and assault on the male gender as a whole insofar as their humanity from boy hood to man hood and it will stop or ill die trying. It was set at about 25 percent of monthly gross wages for the minimum wage back when the support order was put in place back 10 years ago or so. THE SYSTEM IS OUT DATED!!! The old chestnut. We wont get started on the unintended consequences of the Bradley Amendment (42 US Code 666-somehow appropriate) or the states which charge more than the amount of interest allowed by Federal law (6-percent) in order to increase both the gross amount of child support collected, and thus the kickbacks the states receive under the CSPIA. Thats hypocrisy, and insane. This debt of mineis all interest on a balance that shouldve never existed in the first place. I dont have an issue with comtinuing payments to take care of that. When his son came out as gay she had her new husband beat him up she told him she hopes he gets aids and dies. This is Maryland. His ex was on housing, having to list how much child support she was receiving. Morally and ethically maybe but the government should not be mandating how or if someone raises their kid. If she is collecting support on you and your sister while your father has custody, that is fraudulent. I pay what I can when I can but I wont be able to work at all if this happens and my girlfriend cant afford to support us both and shouldnt have to if the courts would follow the law and calculate the arrears and payments based on my actual adjusted gross income. This system simply destroyed me and any hope i once had. They do consider the extra mouths to feed at 2.5% of the total. This is a problem in our society. All of this after she brought the man who beat her while she was holding their baby back into the home. Judge Judy who was a real judge, hates child support. He drank to medicate himself and begged for a divorce. Sounds like they both made a mistake equally and theyre both paying for it equally. The family would adjust for that period. Im not the type of women that says if you dont pay Im not letting you see the kids. Im currently saving money to take her to court and get shared custody, because Im afraid of trying to get full custody which is just down right impossible, which in Texas it damn near is. Many fathers sincerely want to do right by their children, but simply don't have the means to do so. For some people its worth it to be happy, but its not easy. Oh hell no that doesnt go with me. He eventually gets a job and after working there for months he and his company receives garnishment notice . My ex drives a 2015 new model car, I drive an 1989 toyota Camry. The childrearing crazy, I know! Read Dr. Stephen Baskervilles book, TAKEN INTO CUSTODY to learn the extent of the corruption. The mother of the child filed for child support with false information and with no time sharing agreement in place, my bf got screwed. Adding money into the mix just breeds anger and alienation. For his child support he is a child care worker, again he requested parent time with his 1st born and the court (a woman judge) told him he should be paying more child support (He is already paying more then the required formula states should be paid) so the judge told him to get a real job ( a woman would have never been told that!). Child support dont care about anyone they have no hearts they just want to be cruel to random people. If she is in fact withholding visitation, take her to court. Obviously, she had the upper handdue to my ignorance and nativityand theres no way it would happen without a fight, if I had it to do again. She filed a case against me, when I was 17, claiming that I hadnt paid her, when all the whilewe were living together and sharing bills. Both man and woman decide to take responsibility of that action equally. Theres a lot that needs to change if we really want to do what the research shows is best for children. Looking at the numbers Im paying every part of raising my daughter who 8 that lives with her mother and giving her mother a nice tax free tip each month! Please post this on Facebook so I can like it. Its a sad situation that there is no way they can grasp as 8 and 5 year olds, they arent adults able to understand it all yet. This way the parent can still continue to pay and the child doesnt suffer. I think that child support system needs to be corrected because I hate it that some women dont even bother in looking for jobs because they live out of child support . Amen to that brotha couldnt agree with you more this system has to change asap our rights are being taken away little by little and with that our parent raising views and dreams /our hard work earned money and some.. The simple fact that child support doesnt guarantee visitation makes me sick. Exactly I am ordered to pay close to 1800.00 a month in child support to my ex who does not work and has 2 other kids by a guy that has never paid a dime. You should not be paying more than 30% if your net to the ex. It was still considered part of his income. In my experience almost all divorced women claim to be abused. I got the full scene on video and got it online for divorce proof later on. Didnt think so. It was one year after I divorced before I finally let my child meet my love. She has No accountability, and there is no equality whatsoever. THE MONEY CAN BURN, it wont save anybody. Id have to lawyer up though to take her back to court so the judge can slap her on the wrist and tell her to play niceor have the judge tell me that the kids are old enough to have say so and cannot be forced to come to my home. Some of the tactics that states and local jurisdictions have employed to increase child support collection among low-income non-custodial dads include: Making child support payments more affordable. I can tell you know nothing. The system is wrong. The policies, while necessary themselves, would probably benefit from learning how to adapt with the times in order to maintain a level of flexibility based on case-by-case scenarios. I wouldnt force someone to pay me if they couldnt afford it or didnt want to. While I try to build up time spent with her mom. Judges will force noncustodial parents to get a job, any job to start paying welfare back or they will throw them in jail????? Now I fear if I get pulled over for any reason, Ill end up in jail. Phyllis MacCutcheon licensed in CT and NM only. I have rent and a car payment, phone, cable, auto ins. Thats is ridiculous. SMH at all the ridiculous complaining on these boards whether the CP (usually Mom) is working or not. 1 Million Fathers Against The Corrupt Child Support System In America | Houston TX If she was good before with what she received why complain and ask for more now Theres something that has to be done, I struggled for many years as a single mother but that didnt stop me. There are support for the divorce side which wasnt helpful for my case. Except this doesnt matter when it comes to men and fatherhood. The matching dollars was supposed to help States pay for tracking down dead beat dads, but now every dad that gets a divorce is a dead beat. He played disappearing acts, staying away for two tho three days. As Graham points out, 29 percent of families in the system live below the federal poverty line. She kept filling my daughters head with nonsense about me leaving her so I was having to try to explain that I would never leave her I just left her mother. Office in Ridgeland, MS. 4 Problems With The Modern Child Support System, Click to share on Facebook (Opens in new window), Click to share on Twitter (Opens in new window), Click to share on Reddit (Opens in new window), Click to share on LinkedIn (Opens in new window), Click to share on Pinterest (Opens in new window). I apply for food stamps and am DENIED because I am just at their income limit because they DONT COUNT CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS!! Why is she entitled to it? The judge ruled that he should keep paying the same amount with o income and he now had an arearage for the time it took to get the court date. You said something about his room and the mattress. There is zero equality about it. Went from a 26.00 an hour job to a 10.00 job and no adjustment or assistance. 2. Other than that, our kids have been shafted by the custodial father/noncustodial mother bias that does exist in this state. My current wife has 2 teenage boys from her prior relationship. The worst offender is Indiana, which charges 1-1/2 percent interest per month. We will work zealously to guide you through the appeals process, ensuring that you present the proper evidence and arguments. Being she makes 60k plus over you she should be getting less and paying half the insurance. But states wont make money on reform so I doubt it ever happens. Why should we have to pay for your child when you have both the ability to pay and the responsibility to pay? Government has been given too too much power. Required fields are marked *. she makes almost as much as meand i BEGGED to have 50/50 custodydeaf ears. This process actually made me consider going back to school to practice family law just so I can advocate for fathers rights. Sounds fair to me but in the one sided battle it aint gonna happen! If the costs were truly added up and split 50/50, they should actually be paying more than they are complaining about. If women want a fair fight in this then realize that just because your situation involves a deadbeat dad it by no means that all men are deadbeat fathers. Divorce Tips For Men: What To Do With The House? The system is circa 1950 male breadwinner BS and expects a percent stable economy. You are a citizen with rights. In his opinion i was not letting him see the kids. I did file for child support, but did so because I feel it is not fair to me to have to bear the financial burden alone, not when he is capable to help do so. However if you go walking in there with attitude and saying you need more visitation to reduce CS, youre digging yourself a grave. The father is really glad that you made it a priority to give sole custody to the mother just because she is a woman. So many stories of past due child support have to do with parents ignoring our letters, phone calls, subpoenas to court. Ive been going through a lot with this and the system needs to be fair. Then she brought in a hand written note that anyone could of wrote. Daycare is not a need. Sounds like a great plan, right? We have been fighting for years to see my husbands kids but we finally gave up because of the nightmare she made it. Shes getting 45% of your net. So why bother. I have my two kids on my health ins & dental. Anyone that thinks Child Support is fare needs to get a grip on reality! You havent stopped to consider that most men lose their kids 90% of the time. You will just have to represent yourself. Spoken like someone who expects someone else to foot the bill. I for one am sick and damn tired of good fathers like myself who love my child dearly and see a women who lives and has custody know less about my child than I do. Why not suspend child support as punishment!? By your argument, its okay to force a parent into poverty because they had a child and couldnt keep a marriage together.. Thats not flawed at all.. Ever wonder why the state doesnt care how the child support money is used, only whether it is paid? There are a couple of other pages, but its the same thing in other languages. New laws need to be passed in child support. I have like 4-5 years of this nonsense to pay. On the eve before Thanksgiving, I attempted to put the turkey into the oven and made plans for a trip out of town, to find that he hadnt. Look outside the little bubble of your life and understand that people that have less in life still have children and bad things happen to people. If you have the kids 7 nights per fortnight, you're assumed to be covering 50% of their costs through direct care. I did NOT include rent, extracurricular activities, cell phone bill, or clothing. We shouldnt be financially struggling just because we have been divorced with a child. Dido mine cheated and my kids live with grandmother her mother while shes out partying and doing drugs Im in mass shes in florida and my kids tell me shes never their said she lives in a van her own mother cant stand her. Just cause I make more I have to pay 70% of summer camp, after school care, and now she wants tutoring cause our child supposedly has adhd. These financial incentives also explain why states ignore 42 US Code 654(21)(a), which caps the maximum amount of interest that a state can charge on child support arrears at 6-percent. I am willing to do whatever ever I can just dont know where to start.. Me email is zackson721@yahoo.com.. God bless and keep fighting for your kids, Im down too Jack! Believing that child support unjustly enriches state agencies, many . Because the mother got mad one day from an argument she filed. I am sick of hearing these mothers complain to no end about how much more expensive or hard it is. But not when it has varifilable proof that the fathers income has gone down . How can we the people men change this? Without going into a lot of detail, I had it pretty bad with support and other divorce obligations. No tax breaks for the dads. I feel everyones pain in this comment section Im a dad and I have not worked for 3 months dues to my wife having an AFE(amniotic Fluid Embolism) I have to help her she is in bad condition and Im the only that can care for her she cannot be left alone she is a fall risk and has numerous health issues she cant even walk. Im better, No, Im better. And also tried to kidnap the oldest. After the child reaches 18 years of age, let see who the better parent was in the childs eyes, not the courts. I would also like to see a child support trust account like this one (http://www.mediate.com/articles/if_they_can_do_parenting_plans.cfm) become the norm, again, to make supporting the children a shared responsibility instead of treating the non-custodial parent as a support check that is allowed to visit with their children at the custodial parents whim. Children need to bond to one parent when they are growing up. Under the current child support "guidelines" the following factors are RARELY considered by a judge when he or she sets a child support amount: The amount of time each parent has physical custody of the child. My wife walked out on me and our children they live with me we were married for 18 years she wanted something different i am disabled i asked her to pay to help me with them she did for a couple of months and stop i just had to take child support out i was told even if they live with me i may have to pay her child support that is not right i was told most fathers dont get child support but that is not right either moms can be dead beat moms to be no one says that. Yea. Elon Musk has said that doctors or parents . I get my kids 45/55 and she doesnt use the majority of my money for my kids. ; The child is struggling academically under the care of the custodial parent. The only reason I say that is the reason I even saw your post. The support pays her house note shes late paying all the time crushing my credit. I live in texas, so the case worker says you can file an appeal but have to be in court !! What business it is of the states to decide how and where your child is raised. There were many times when my husband went to pick up his kids, and either one or both of them wouldnt even be home, his ex having let them go elsewhere, even though it was his turn to have them. No, the system is not outdated youre thinking of alimony. How Do I Get My Name Off The Mortgage After Divorce? Where do you get 25%, because I have 54% of my paycheck taken and that is for one kid. Women have the advantage right off the bat. Its totally free to join, and the federal court relief being demanded includes the full restoral of my child custody rights under law, plus a nice share of the large amount in civil damages expected. The final straw was one summer, when our youngest was just a year, the central-AC broke. Then, the court treats YOUR child as though they are the property of the state as though YOUR child is just being loaned to you to take care of. Aso for child support it is nothing more than stealth alimony that is why the awards are so high. Its really is unfair in some ways now days. Fathers are victimized by the court who now makes it illegal for you to be a father, and only by the courts leave are you allowed to be a father. the mother is so nasty that there are roaches in their house. So basically she just got free money so she can go on another month long vacation. How can you live with that! My ex does not do this, and in the process I find out many things he is interested in. Any time my ex and I have a disagreement, she makes it out really big to the kids and has convinced them that Im a bad person. Now he works for us in a real job. That is just another weapon that women use to be unequal again. Seriously if I end up in jail for failure to pay the full amount owed in Child support. Who cheated or asked for the divorce isnt relevant, it has nothing to do with taking care of your child. I saw first hand how the court system simply does not care about anything you have to say in regards to your parenting rights being taken from mom without any valid reason it is truly sad but Im hopeful things are gonna change. It is baffling how any woman could sit and complain when they are being majorly supported in almost every arena. Last September, the Supreme Court of Canada confirmed a parent's ability to make a retroactive claim for child support. He has never attended day care. We are going to have to take it. Now mind you everytime I got paid I asked her if she need money for anything. Stop complaining, just take the corrupt corporations and government out of your lives, you dont need a corrupt corporations or government to tell you what to do with your money or kids, be responsible take good care of your kids and kick this corrupt parasites corporations and government out of your life they never going to move a finger to help you, they are always ready to screw you open your eyes fight back. In Georgia they take into account both parents incomes and calculate CS based on the cumulative needs of the child. Im sorry your situation was as it turned out to be but know that yours is not the norm. Im pretty sure they target the weak cause they know someone else would find a way out or they know someone in child support an they let them go. One of the dirty secrets of child support is that states get kickbacks under the Child Support Performance and Incentive Act for increasing the gross amount of child support collected. She overindulges them, but doesnt save for their future. that support is paid based on gross income of the father. Why did you sleep with the woman who has YOU on child support? STOP THE EXCUSES, GIVE THE HELP, AND ACKNOWLEDGE THE SINGLE PARENTS WHO PROVIDES WHEN THE OTHER PARENT WONT!!! Deadbeat dads are not the norm at all nowadays. My ex wife took my kids and went to the other side of the country because her boyfriend (I had no idea) wanted her there. I dont think a woman has the right to force fathers to pay for everything alone just because they have given birth. God bless! Plus, check out their power-packed Legal Tips page for all parents fighting family court, too Wow!! After the deed is done they are left with zero physical consequences. . And all this putting them in jail a day or two for non support m back support is their own fault they had these children and know they are court appointed to pay to help support them they should know they must get and keep a job . 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