The problem is that the Bozar has a super-high GRA price, but isn't really best at anything. I don't think this one really needs an explanation. 78(112.3) Never neccesary. Something missing? 350 It enjoys a larger clip size, a nice accurate scope and superior damage (60 points of superiority, 140 with explosive rounds) and AOE capabilities with explosive rounds. With the highest critical chance possible of 86% V.A.T.S. The latest version of this mod overhaulsthe quest completion trigger so that it be so hard to hit when retrieving the weapon. Hello, I've been playing for New vegas for several hours now, I've reached my gun and repairskill to 100 but i can't seem to get neither the medicine stick nor paciencia, any idea of what I'm doing wrong? You have to have the correct prerequisites and find the correct vendor. Get the LMG. By accepting all cookies, you agree to our use of cookies to deliver and maintain our services and site, improve the quality of Reddit, personalize Reddit content and advertising, and measure the effectiveness of advertising. WMX lets you add an extended magazine, a scope and I think a rapid fire bolt making it a very efficient tack driver. Now this is another weapon that might not make a lot of other New Vegas Best Weapons lists, but I would like to argue in favor of it. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:Wpn_brushgun_fire_2d_04.ogg, GRA anti-materiel rifle carbon fiber parts, GRA 12.7mm submachine gun stacked magazine, GRA Plasma Defender high-capacity terminal, GRA tri-beam laser rifle heavy duty capacitor, GRA tri-beam laser rifle high-capacity terminal, The Same Could Be Said of All Religious Weapons, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, - Damage per attack (damage per projectile), - Durability (number of attacks before breaking), The rounds inserted into the rifle differ in appearance to those loaded into the. 110 When loaded with hand loaded semi-wadcutter rounds, this can be a very effective weapon to use against high-level targets, such as deathclaws and super mutants . I'd love to see if this got resolved. The only drawback I got from this weapons was the fact that a cowgirl, and in another playthrough, cowboy, does not use sniper rifles. Form ID The elegant, powerful, and open-source mod manager, Download and manage all your collections within Vortex, Upgrade your account to unlock all media content, To enjoy the benefits of Nexus Mods, please log in or register a new account. With WMX, This Machine. DPS weapons are the kinds you specifically bring out BECAUSE sh** is hitting the fan, you've got a ton of enemies on you and your options are be wasteful and non-economical or die; a slower firing weapon won't save you. Is this a rhetorical question?!? Longue Carabine worked until I got into the DLCs, then it didn't pack enough oomph. 6 For sidearms I carry the Ranger Sequoia, That Gun, and Lucky. I did my best to place them in locations that make sense. edit: Huh. Medicine Stick People like Medicine Stick for it's rate of fire, and Medicine Stick is boosted by the Cowboy perk. Fallout: New Vegas Which Cowboy weapons ? Save your game again and quit. ALSID can hit a good 47 damage per shot with the proper perks, Vance's SMG can hit a good 24 damage per shot with it's proper perks. Effects The Medicine Stick features a unique stock with a symbol similar to a Native American dream catcher or medicine wheel attached to the side; the symbol is made of beads, string and feathers. I usually play mainly with rifles, but carry a melee, a shotgun or auto, a hand gun and some type of sniper. I've tried to like this weapon and I've tried to use it in various ways, but you can quickly see how another type of weapon can almost ALWAYS substitute for ALSID, and thus the benefits it affords you are either non-existent or SOOOOOOOOOOOOO specialized that you'd be lucky to actually encounter a situation where having ALSID benefited you as opposed to having one of the alternatives. Bloody Mess (+2.8)Lord Death (+2.2)Thought You Died (+5.5) Fast Shot (+0.2)Ain't Like That Now (+0.2) They're useless at long range and you need to carry a metric [censored]ton of ammo. Spread Parentheses () denote unique weapon variants. Due to its bonus critical chance, critical hits are more common. Wasn't a great fan of Mercy. 0.01 3 Dmg/proj. Hello, I've been playing for New vegas for several hours now, I've reached my gun and repairskill to 100 but i can't seem to get neither the medicine stick nor paciencia, any idea of what I'm doing wrong? I'm very much in the belief that, for me, carrying 3 resonably lightweight weapons; 1x Long range (Gobi campaign), 1x medium (12.7 sub machine or assault carbine), 1x close (riot shotgun) would be all that you ever need. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. You expect situations like this, and you're fully ready and prepared to spend caps for situations like this. yes the bulk of the enemies on normal difficulty are human and the basic hunting rifle will kill a human with a shot to the head usually. Reload time So far this are the closest mod on trying to fix iron sight . The offerings by Vendortrons varies when they respawn. To answer your question, Paciencia is a unique hunting rifle, meaning it's states are different, its damage per shot is higher, it is more durable, but it's main selling point is; Your crits will do the same damage as a anti-material rifle, (added it has a 3.5x magnification iron sight which is on par with high tier scopes). Ammo & Reloading 78(112.3) Ammo/shot All-in-all, Paciencia is almost completely and utterly inferior to a GRA AMR while costing a crapton, all while having god awful ironsights and rather attractive alternatives as it's competitors. Guns 50 Form ID All three of these sidearms offer ammo that weighs far less than your average rifle round (.50 MG, 12.7mm, .308, .45-70 Gov't) whereas http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Fallout:_New_Vegas_ammunition And despite it's ammo weighing so much, ALSID acts like Lucky in that it requires a crit to be on par damage-wise with a good rifle. Hey Johnny it's cool I didn't take your comment bad, if you see how I answered it above. In terms of worldbuilding New Vegas was leaps and bounds better, New Vegas actually feels like a believable world for 200+ years after the apocalypse, Fallout 4 on the other hand feels like it's only 20+ years afterwards. Durability The Medicine Stick can fire a total of about 995 standard rounds - the equivalent of 125 reloads - from full condition before breaking. When logged in, you can choose up to 12 games that will be displayed as favourites in this menu. 3. The Bozar - The same weapon the Chosen One wouldn't leave home without is the same weapon the Courier leaves in the trash bin. I'm afraid I'd have to disagree. New vegas' equivalent of the lincoln repeater from fallout 3, Provide it with SWC ammunition from the handloader perk and it can carry you through an entire playthrough on its own, Its one weapon i bring into every dlc outside of dead money, And one of the only two i bring into honest hearts. Remove the weapon mods on all weapons affected by this mod. This is by no means a criticism, as I can entirely understand it's impracticality, however, anyone who doesn't like this weapon clearly hasn't seen the effects of it when fired into the crowd of Deathclaws outside Dead Wind Cavern! Strength req. Future lists? Presentation ideas? 1. The BOZAR. Medicine has nothing to do with food healing; everything related to food is governed by Survival, even the Hardcore variables. And admittedly, yes, it will out-DD a normal hunting rifle with a sneak attack crit, as Paciencia has the same crit damage of an AMR. DPS (reload) The Bags also have weight, which Hydra doesn't. Likewise, for those situations where you DON'T kill your target ASAP in 1-2 shots, Paciencia is royally screwed whereas the modded Hunting rifle is prepped and ready for round two. Repair Nevertheless, I think you'd struggle to find someone who'd prefer Paciencia to the normal hunting rifle simply because hunting rifles suffer from inaccurate ironsights. This is most evident when wearing heavy/medium armor like. The 3rd best revolver would be the Mysterious Mangum; however, the mysterious magnum has very low . I'm currently level 13 and barely scratching the outskirts of Vegas. -Dubious-, Sorry but correction here. All three of those offer ammo types that are very VERY common throughout the wastes, cheap, affordable and easy to find both in containers and on fallen enemies, but ALSID's ammo literally will not be found anywhere but by vendors in the Mojave itself and never within your travels. Strength req. AP All rights reserved. Requirements 35 COS rifle is more dependable and more than enough for most of the enemies you face, but Paciencia has it's charms. - Smarkil. In order to achieve this i had to rebuild the entire quest. Ever use This Machine and find it's spread too high to be practical at long-range? The only "sniper" the Bozar can outclass is the Ratslayer, and even that's debateable given the Ratslayer can provide more consistent headshots and thus exploit the x2 damage bonus on headshots. This is a gun built for sniping. DPS Though i played with WMX that allows putting all LMG mod on ti, Weapons you consider completely impractical. Christine's CoS silencer rifle is the most consistent (able to reach 100% crit) and preserves stealth while sniping, but #3 in terms of DPS. At least there's a unique playstyle associated with it, though. Likewise, the moment you're in a fight where you quickly use up all your Action points, you're surrendering ALSID's increased aim over an SMG to an extent, meaning your advantages have just ceased to exist and the only advantage remaining is the x2 crit multiplier. Pacienca has the trouble of the clip, and of course it has no scope so long distance sniping is a little harder. Cowboy (+19.5)Bloody Mess (+3.9)Lord Death (+3.1)Thought You Died (+7.8) The Medicine Stick can fire a total of about 995 standard rounds - the equivalent of 125 reloads - from full condition before breaking. The Anti-Materiel Rifle is a long range sniping weapon though, and the Medicine Stick is a short to mid-range rifle. and our Paciencia is a unique hunting rifle. 55(65.5) Dmg/attack Due to the gun having a tubular magazine, it is reloaded by hand, one bullet at a time; as such, it can be interrupted mid-way through reloading if needed. Riot Shotgun for 90% of the work and Paciencia with mods for the long range stuff. A melee weapon can provide the same DPS and then some, all while being cheaper. Hunting riflesBolt/lever/pump-action guns .308 round Personally, I'm weird. And novelty? Medicine Stick in the achievement image for. nobody seems to have made a point on that the paciencia can use hollow point rounds as compared to anti material rifle and boasts higher crit damage when used against unarmored/lightly armored targets using said rounds. Originally The Medicine Stick was a variant of the brush gun and is clean in appearance. Therefore, Lucky is a logistical advantage that any character who can properly utilize it (a character with Luck, Agility and respective perks) would be negligent to pass up. Not a specialist in any way. It has a three-round magazine, higher damage than the regular variant, and higher item HP. Espaol - Latinoamrica (Spanish - Latin America). Ammo cap. You could argue that Paciencia may be a good alternative for people who lack the strength to utilize a GRA AMR, but Paciencia requires 6 and the AMR requires 8, meaning there's only so many characters that'll actually benefit from it, and you have to ask yourself if said characters are really going to shell out all that money for Paciencia when a modded Hunting Rifle is cheap and available, the Gobi Sniper Campaign is free to anyone with good lockpicking and Christine's COS Sniper Rifle even offers a scope and respectable damage. The main idea of this pack is to reduce the count of .esp while still granting you access to all of the uniques. Valve Corporation. Crit % mult [The medicine stick](http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Medicine_Stick_(GRA)) does 78 dmg per shot and can't even crit. Paciencia does have more zoom, 3.5x compared to 3.0x and it's fun using iron sights to snipe some fools. Install the main file again & place the "Vanilla Weapon Modifications.esp" last in your load order. https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:Wpn_huntingrifle_fire_2d_03.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:Wpn_riflehunting_reloadchamber.ogg, https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/File:Wpn_riflehunting_jam_sm.ogg, GRA anti-materiel rifle carbon fiber parts, GRA 12.7mm submachine gun stacked magazine, GRA Plasma Defender high-capacity terminal, GRA tri-beam laser rifle heavy duty capacitor, GRA tri-beam laser rifle high-capacity terminal, The Same Could Be Said of All Religious Weapons, Do Not Sell or Share My Personal Information, - Damage per attack (damage per projectile), - Durability (number of attacks before breaking). AP Editor ID Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Skill ive got a spare 28k caps and im wondering which is better, the gun runners arsenal weapon Medicine Stick or the gun runners arsenal Bozar? If someone carried both, it wouldn't really be redundant; both guns have their niche. Dmg/proj. To each their own, I guess? Is Paciencia that much better than a regular Hunting Rifle, to justify its outrageous price? Mercy was far to much effort to get and it's ammo was too expensive. The 2nd best revolver in the game would be lucky, which can be found in a level 75 floor safe in the Bison Steve's gift shop. (124 damage on a crit vs. Paciencia's 160, though one should note this gap grows if you have Better Criticals). Like many unique weapons, Paciencia cannot be modified. Jednak koleanka wspomniaa e mj problem nadaj si bardziej do psychologa. Weapons chambered in .45-70 were often surplused to Native American reservations as subsistence hunting rifles during the 19th and early 20th century. Check out the Fallout Amino: http://aminoapps.com/c/FalloutAmino/G2A Reflink: https://www.g2a.com/r/captainoobWeapon Spotlights Playlist: http://bit.ly/2nLdP. 1 Medicine sticks, also called "spirit sticks," are used by some Native American tribes for rituals relating to the spirit world, and are often decorated with beads and feathers from spirit animals (such as the eagle or the bear). 78 Fallout Wiki is a FANDOM Games Community. Another New Vegas Unique coming your way. Christine's COS Sniper vs. Paciencia (Death Battle Edition). NVDLC05WeapHuntingRifleUnique Cookie Notice Perks (rel.) Factions are also better thought out and more believable in New Vegas, the characters are more interesting and memorable. It makes only half the noise of most other weapons, and most enemies will have a difficult time taking you from [Caution] to [Danger], let alone actually seeing you (flashing [Danger]). This allows the gun to be fired before reloading is complete. The Medicine Stick is the strongest .45-70 Gov't chambered weapon and is the second highest damage per shot ballistic rifle in the game, behind the anti-materiel rifle. Crit dmg Install hundreds of mods with the click of a button. 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I talk about both their damage, and their locations if you're looking to pick them up yourself! Fallout: New Vegas (PC) Build/Weapon Synergy Question (Paciencia vs. Medicine Stick) PhoenixSpectre6 years ago#1 Hi all. What you end up with is a flashy little sidearm that can be as cumbersome as a rifle, but for the performance standards of a sidearm. Item HP The Medicine Stick could be a reference to multiple practices by Native American tribes. Witam Zastanawiam si ju jaki czas czy nie pj do coacha. A one shot weapon which can only be used at close range? Future lists? Why on earth would I use the Bozar on a deathclaw to get a mere 38 damage on a sneak attack critical when I could use a GRA AMR with explosive rounds and hit 300; hell, 600 if I land a headshot (something that'd be more difficult with the Bozar). Ammo & Reloading To answer your question, Paciencia is a unique hunting rifle, meaning it's states are different, its damage per shot is higher, it is more durable, but it's main selling point is; Your crits will do the same damage as a anti-material rifle, (added it has a 3.5x magnification iron sight which is on par with high tier scopes). Well, i found Bozar useful last time i played my "Heavy". Site news (important news will be issued), Comments on your files, images and videos, New images and videos added to your files. For the same price it takes to buy this damned thing, you can have a fully modded GRA AMR, which btw, still hits harder. Some of you may be thinking "right but accuracy is a non-issue for me at this point and I'm willing to adapt to inaccurate ironsights if it means more damage," but all of this is made moot by Paciencia's pricetag. I found Medicine Stick being sold not by Vendortron, but that there were 2 copies being sold by the Great Khans in their armory. Fallout: New Vegas features a ton of powerful unique weapons today we'll go over the best of them, and where to find 'em for yourself. How do I not fail The Legend of the Star quest? Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. DPS (reload) 1 The Medicine Stick is too loud, too cumbersome and too fragile for my sneak and snipe character. DPS Leave some feedback please! However, the advantage it has over your rifle is that it can be more practical, economical and helpful vs. weaker or unarmored foes, therefore allowing you to conserve on that rifle ammo longer and save it for the enemies where it's needed most, thus saving you both money in the long-term and saving your skin in the near future for battles-to-come. It also has a 3.5x magnification when looking down the rifle's iron sights, equivalent to a top-tier scope. 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